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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Not our Fault&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Editor B</title>
		<link>http://neworleans.metblogs.com/2007/07/25/not-our-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-13211</link>
		<dc:creator>Editor B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Collective responsibility. Yes indeed. There&#039;s lots of anger and despair swirling around since the flood, but very little of another crucial emotion: shame. We should all feel some shame, because we all share somewhat in the blame, and that shame should move us to take responsibility.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Collective responsibility. Yes indeed. There&#8217;s lots of anger and despair swirling around since the flood, but very little of another crucial emotion: shame. We should all feel some shame, because we all share somewhat in the blame, and that shame should move us to take responsibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Ware</title>
		<link>http://neworleans.metblogs.com/2007/07/25/not-our-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-13210</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Ware</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 22:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more Craig. It&#039;s well trodden soil but always bears repeating. And I&#039;ve often wondered what kind of oversight there is to ensure that people aren&#039;t in the system wherever and here. Voting both places..etc. You have to figure that people who are riding the system out at this point are probably lifers and spend quite a bit of time figuring new and better ways to work the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more Craig. It&#8217;s well trodden soil but always bears repeating. And I&#8217;ve often wondered what kind of oversight there is to ensure that people aren&#8217;t in the system wherever and here. Voting both places..etc. You have to figure that people who are riding the system out at this point are probably lifers and spend quite a bit of time figuring new and better ways to work the system.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Ware</title>
		<link>http://neworleans.metblogs.com/2007/07/25/not-our-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-13209</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Ware</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shit, Skeeter, I didn&#039;t know 17th St. canal was just redone. I know they were working on the bridge right there at the mouth. Was the part that failed the renovated part?

Were faulty design renovations a contributor to the K failure?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shit, Skeeter, I didn&#8217;t know 17th St. canal was just redone. I know they were working on the bridge right there at the mouth. Was the part that failed the renovated part?</p>
<p>Were faulty design renovations a contributor to the K failure?</p>
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		<title>By: Skeeter88</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skeeter88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The ACE built those levees how many years ago?&quot;

The 17th Street canal had just been renovated when Katrina hit. The renovation took several years and was done by the ACE.

I didn&#039;t see anything wrong with it after it was finished but the newly redone canal collapsed when the first hard rain hit it due to ridiculous design errors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The ACE built those levees how many years ago?&#8221;</p>
<p>The 17th Street canal had just been renovated when Katrina hit. The renovation took several years and was done by the ACE.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t see anything wrong with it after it was finished but the newly redone canal collapsed when the first hard rain hit it due to ridiculous design errors.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow -- that IS a long-ass post. But interesting reading. I&#039;ve reflected on some of the same things over the past 22 months since we&#039;ve been back and been watching a collective lack of caring among certain sectors of the community. And these sectors aren&#039;t broken down along racial lines, either.

I had intended to post the other day about the story in the T-P on rent subsidy. It appears the Bush Administration is about to continue rental assistance for about 11,000 families still displaced by Katrina and Rita to JUNE OF 2008, fergodsakes. But I did not post about this because it would only repeat my same outrage from the last time the deadline was extended. It would seem to me that in nearly all instances, TWO YEARS after a family was displaced, they&#039;d have been able to establish a new life, at least temporarily, elsewhere. I mean -- New Orleans isn&#039;t the only city where Section 8 vouchers exist. I assume, also, that these same individuals will also be able to continue voting in New Orleans elections even though they remain elsewhere.

This is where we are, at least in some important ways, having an artificial collectiveness imposed on us. While those of us who have made our way back have been making a collective effort to keep the good and toss the bad, our efforts are sometimes thwarted by those who used to live here but don&#039;t anymore -- but still have enough ballot power to turn an election. While I agree that those who are trying to rehabilitate their private property should indeed have a voice, too many never owned any property here to begin with.

I am not saying that only property owners should be able to vote in municipal elections. What I AM saying is a voter&#039;s physical residence should be within the city. If the Doe family has been living in Houston since Sept. 1, 2005, Houston is their home if they want it to be or not. They don&#039;t live here right now. They are not part of our collective effort for the time being -- and they are diluting the voices of those of us who DO live here. It occurs to me that collective responsibility should indeed imbue us all with a sense of guilt, concern or what have you -- but addressing our needs should be the responsibility solely of those who live here -- not those who have spent nearly two years living not only outside Orleans Parish but over one or two (or more) state lines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8212; that IS a long-ass post. But interesting reading. I&#8217;ve reflected on some of the same things over the past 22 months since we&#8217;ve been back and been watching a collective lack of caring among certain sectors of the community. And these sectors aren&#8217;t broken down along racial lines, either.</p>
<p>I had intended to post the other day about the story in the T-P on rent subsidy. It appears the Bush Administration is about to continue rental assistance for about 11,000 families still displaced by Katrina and Rita to JUNE OF 2008, fergodsakes. But I did not post about this because it would only repeat my same outrage from the last time the deadline was extended. It would seem to me that in nearly all instances, TWO YEARS after a family was displaced, they&#8217;d have been able to establish a new life, at least temporarily, elsewhere. I mean &#8212; New Orleans isn&#8217;t the only city where Section 8 vouchers exist. I assume, also, that these same individuals will also be able to continue voting in New Orleans elections even though they remain elsewhere.</p>
<p>This is where we are, at least in some important ways, having an artificial collectiveness imposed on us. While those of us who have made our way back have been making a collective effort to keep the good and toss the bad, our efforts are sometimes thwarted by those who used to live here but don&#8217;t anymore &#8212; but still have enough ballot power to turn an election. While I agree that those who are trying to rehabilitate their private property should indeed have a voice, too many never owned any property here to begin with.</p>
<p>I am not saying that only property owners should be able to vote in municipal elections. What I AM saying is a voter&#8217;s physical residence should be within the city. If the Doe family has been living in Houston since Sept. 1, 2005, Houston is their home if they want it to be or not. They don&#8217;t live here right now. They are not part of our collective effort for the time being &#8212; and they are diluting the voices of those of us who DO live here. It occurs to me that collective responsibility should indeed imbue us all with a sense of guilt, concern or what have you &#8212; but addressing our needs should be the responsibility solely of those who live here &#8212; not those who have spent nearly two years living not only outside Orleans Parish but over one or two (or more) state lines.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Ware</title>
		<link>http://neworleans.metblogs.com/2007/07/25/not-our-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-13206</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Ware</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nope.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unrelated to the content of you post, who was the high school friend?  I wouldn&#039;t dare dream it might be me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unrelated to the content of you post, who was the high school friend?  I wouldn&#8217;t dare dream it might be me&#8230;</p>
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