wow, just….wow

I gotta say this is a very well written piece. And I do have a sincere love for conspiracy theories. There certainly is some truth in the story, but I can’t say I agree with it. Still, it’s worth reading; especially since we don’t get much of this perspective on MB though I often think we should. If you disagree with it, don’t fool yourself into thinking that it isn’t a very popular perspective here in the city. I can assure you – it is.

Ta-dah!!

12 Comments so far

  1. Jack Ware (unregistered) on August 30th, 2007 @ 4:24 pm

    I should have added that one of the things I really like about conspiracy theories is that you can never be completely sure they’re wrong. I think its rare that they are completely wrong, but often it is a matter of degrees of correctness that create a beautiful gray area of uncertainty. Also, it sort of begs you to see things differently than you intuitively would, which is a good exercise for critical thinking in general.


  2. Chris (unregistered) on August 30th, 2007 @ 5:03 pm

    I wouldn’t even call this a conspiracy theory, I mean, it’s plain as day that the government won’t let these people come back to the projects. Maybe this article offers an untrue theory of the government’s reasoning, but isn’t money always the reason for a decision like this?

    I do take offense at the victims of this calling public housing their homes. Every time I see a story about this on the news it’s “They won’t let me back into MY HOME!” Well, the bottom line is it’s not your home, the property belongs to the city and they can do whatever they damn well please with it, for better or for worse.


  3. jack Ware (unregistered) on August 30th, 2007 @ 9:28 pm

    Maybe Conspiracy theory is the wrong word…I dunno. I’ve never been very good with words.

    It certainly is economic. But economic decisions by the government doesn’t make for a very sympathetic victim – at least as not sympathetic as framing the situation in racial terms implying a civil liberties issue.

    It also strikes me odd every time someone talks about “My Home”. In fact it angers me to some degree. But home is a sort of an abstract term. So technically, you have to allow it. To do otherwise implies that poor people aren’t entitled to a sense of home, which they certainly are. But legally speaking, there’s no good footing for them as far as I know.

    And I don’t believe the constitution makes accommodations for the right to a home. If it did (or does) then it begs the question of what sort of protections are mandated for the roughly 2 million people that are going to lose their homes to foreclosure in the next few years as the housing bubble bursts. And these are people who legally purchased a home, albeit through risky, non-standard loans.

    Also, as of today’s paper there are approximately 400 available, unoccupied public housing units in the city. Just not the specific units the people in the article are so eager to get into.

    Seems to me, if you’re going to live on government assistance then you can only be just so specific in what kind of assistance you get. The other option is to somehow pull yourself out of poverty, but even then, you’re restricted by economics. I would love to live it a half million dollar condo in the Quarter but economics makes that an unachievable goal for me and as such, I live in the Shanty. So I can relate to the frustration of not being able to live exactly where you want, but we all deal with that.


  4. Dan F (unregistered) on August 31st, 2007 @ 8:25 am

    It’s really about conspiring to keep people out of the projects. I just don’t think the gubberment could have secret meetings to conspire to keep people out. While it’s true the peeps at HUD attempted to shut them down for repairs/renovation, the activists got them to bow down rather quickly.

    Those 400 units are available to anyone who resided in a housing unit before the storm. The main issue has been some folks not wanting to leave their previous complex.

    I think the majority of folks think that if something is being offered to assist, then beggars can’t really be choosers.

    finally, incompetence does not equal conspiracy.


  5. Chris (unregistered) on August 31st, 2007 @ 9:35 am

    I still think the real failure is that the government allowed some of these ‘victims’ to live in public housing for most of their lives. I am by no means a hardcore anti-welfare guy but the goal of any such government program should be to rehabilitate the poor and give them an opportunity to succeed, not to foster poverty and allow people to become dependent. I do see the closing of the projects as a harsh move that has not been handled well, but to return to the pre-k management of public housing would be equally disasterous.


  6. Robert Sutton (unregistered) on August 31st, 2007 @ 9:42 am

    Sorry Jack, I couldn’t read past this line: “But unlike the cinder block monsters in the Bronx, these public units are beautiful townhouses”


  7. jack Ware (unregistered) on August 31st, 2007 @ 9:44 am

    In the case of Lafitte, which is practically adjacent to the Quarter, I always thought that was a strange location for a project for several reasons. The land has to be some of the most valuable land in Orleans Parish, It’s proximity to the main tourist revenue stream allows for the criminal element, sometimes found in housing projects, to have easy access to cash from a transient group, or even better, the possibility of tourists wandering into the project to be victimized.

    On the other hand, I’m sure quite a few people that work in the Quarter live there which makes it a perfect place to house the necessary work force to keep the quarter rolling.

    Mixed income!! I’m a big fan. I think its the best answer we’ve got right now. It just takes time but its better in the long run.


  8. El Stevo (unregistered) on August 31st, 2007 @ 9:44 am

    “beautiful townhouses, with wrought-iron porches and gardens right next to the tony French Quarter.”

    Oh myh, yes, they are SO beautiful and wonderful the projects. I want a beautiful townhouse too.


  9. El Stevo (unregistered) on August 31st, 2007 @ 9:44 am

    “beautiful townhouses, with wrought-iron porches and gardens right next to the tony French Quarter.”

    Oh myh, yes, they are SO beautiful and wonderful the projects. I want a beautiful townhouse too.


  10. El Stevo (unregistered) on August 31st, 2007 @ 9:44 am

    “beautiful townhouses, with wrought-iron porches and gardens right next to the tony French Quarter.”

    Oh myh, yes, they are SO beautiful and wonderful the projects. I want a beautiful townhouse too.


  11. Brian B (unregistered) on August 31st, 2007 @ 9:40 pm

    When I had dreams about being the Mayor of New Orleans, one of my top priorities was to tear down that project and revitalize the old Krauss Building and make it a media outlet. Have a studio and market it to the local television stations, like WWL, so they can be right in the mix of things. Have it look, in some ways, like the Today show. And move all of those bus stops to a place under I-10, similar to what the West Bank has.

    “Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country,” was all fine and dandy til Katrina. But, the mentality of the “ghetto” is instilled in people’s minds. The gubment is the owner and may do with it whatever they please with those luxury condos. If they offer you another place, better than what you had, but in a different location – why not shut your mouth and go! If your sense of home was tied to someone else’s property, then you need help or a reality check.

    I don’t think this is a race issue; It’s more of a class issue. The Lafitte, the B.W. Cooper, and the Melpomene projects were littered with crime and less than a mile away from downtown. The criminal element would effectively “go to work” and travel to the French Quarter, the New Orleans Center with Macy’s, and Canal St and disappear and retire into their home base after a killing, raping, stabbing, etc… Move those 3 gubment owned dwellings, and watch New Orleans come alive!!

    My solution for the poor people: Instead of the government spending money to rebuild garbage, spend that money on teaching those same people about home ownership. When people have a vested interest and a financial one, they tend to care about people hanging on the corner; they report crimes more often, the take pride in their neighborhood because it affects their resale value. “Feed a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime.”

    Sorry for my long rant.


  12. Anna (unregistered) on September 3rd, 2007 @ 7:43 pm

    A couple of years ago I wouldn’t have believed it, but now… and with our government, I wouldn’t be surprised. You should take a look at this article:

    http://www.gregpalast.com/hurricane-georgehow-the-white-house-drowned-new-orleans/

    It’s by Greg Palast also. Made me sick when I read it because it made me realize that I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if it turned out to be true and that if it is many people died for no reason at all.



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