There is no such thing as orderly looting

Looters arm themselves with stolen weapons, terrorize state police, lay siege to Children’s Hospital, and are reportedly ransacking vehicles in parking garages.

Defillo said looters were also taking guns and ammunition. “We’re very concerned about that,” Defillo said. “We will maintain order. Let me say that. We will stabilize the situation.” … Authorities planned to send more than 70 additional officers and an armed personnel carrier into the city.

Heh. Any guesses on how long it will be before one gang of looters is traveling around in an armored personnel carrier?

When you don’t immediately begin executing looters, they grow bolder. They then have opportunities to arm themselves. Screw that “allowing peaceful looting” bullshit. There is no such thing. Looters endanger lives by draining personnel resources that could otherwise be used to rescue people. Some of those people waiting to be rescued will probably die waiting, because of looters.

Gov. Blanco seems to not have a grasp of what’s going on. On the one hand the National Guard is unable to confront looters because they’re all involved in the rescue efforts:

Gov. Kathleen Blanco appealed to the White House to send more people to help with evacuations and rescues, thereby freeing up National Guardsmen to stop looters.

On the other hand, the National Guard people is available to stop looters, but isn’t acting:

On New Orleans’ Canal Street, dozens of looters ripped open the steel gates on clothing and jewelry stores and grabbed merchandise. In Biloxi, Miss., people picked through casino slot machines for coins and ransacked other businesses. In some cases, the looting was in full view of police and National Guardsmen.

Gov. Blanco has the power to order the National Guard to do more than stand around and try to keep the looting orderly. She can order the National Guard to do what they’re supposed to and begin shooting looters en masse until the looters realize they must leave the city. Nobody will notice the extra dozens, or even hundreds, of bodies floating in the flood waters.

Instead of seeing people flee the city via the Crescent City Connection, moving as fast as possible along the West Bank Expressway and out of the area on Hwy. 90, what you’re going to see is looters descending the Crescent City Connection like a horde of locusts, picking the West Bank clean instead of trying to leave town. The last thing people want is to come home to discover that their home has survived the storm and the floodwaters, only to have fallen victim to lawless hordes that were allowed to pillage and plunder without interference.

I understand that our government officials are under enormous stresses and working in terrible conditions. But, we expect our government to retain order. And when order temporarily vacates the area, we expect our government to restore, even if it means shooting people whose actions endanger the lives and property of others. Grow a spine, Gov. Blanco. Do NOT arrest looters. Order the National Guard to start shooting them on sight.

246 Comments so far

  1. Davo (unregistered) on September 2nd, 2005 @ 10:16 am

    These bleeding-heart types are so predictable and a large part of the reason we have the crime problem — make every excuse in the book instead of holding people responsible for their own behavior.

    Nobody in their right mind blames someone taking food/water for survival. I sure as hell would if I were stuck there — I’d feel bad about it at first, but would feel worse watching my wife and sons die of thirst and hunger.

    Maybe the hoodlums will swap the stolen TV for food or cash? Are you kidding? Where’s the food to be traded? Where’s the cash nobody had for getting out in the first place? These bums were criminals before the disaster and are merely displaying consistent behavior, to the detriment of the vast majority who truly are victims.

    Bleeding hearts cannot stop themselves from nuancing every point to the point a gray goo covers everything and the decision points are lost. While you folks sit and ponder, turn the NG loose on the criminals while the victims are finally evacuated and fed.


  2. Mox (unregistered) on September 2nd, 2005 @ 10:33 am

    New Orleans and all it’s trash needed cleaned up. Unfortunately it took a hurricane disaster to do it. What we are witnessing is the type of people who have always lived in the Big Easy. Killers, rapist and thugs. The police chief left for Nashville a few years ago because it was a hopeless situation. Now, those thugs will eventually have to move to another town. Probably yours or mine. Kill them all. Let God sort them out.


  3. DJ Young (unregistered) on September 2nd, 2005 @ 10:34 am

    These are criminals who are committing the same crimes during a disaster that they normally do under cover of darkness at night. They need to be stopped by ANY means possible including the lawfull “Shoot to Kill”. Those taking food and beverage from GROCERY STORES are NOT looting criminals but SURVIVORISTS doing what they need to do for their familys existence.


  4. J (unregistered) on September 2nd, 2005 @ 10:35 am

    DAVO,

    Excellent points! To add: by looking at political demographics it’s obvious that the strong majority of the individuals who are looting, raping, and shooting at police, are people who would consider themselves Democrats! I find it extremely ironic that you have a Democrat (Kennedy) blaming a Republican President, for the actions by people who are by in large Democrats….it’s almost laughable! I am also pretty sure the bleeding-hearts standing up for the criminlas are also by in large Democrats!


  5. K. Huff (unregistered) on September 2nd, 2005 @ 11:21 am

    For all those that think no politician would order shooting looters. (I am sure this has already been posted somewhere in all these comments)

    “Gov. Kathleen Blanco called the looters “hoodlums” and issued a warning to lawbreakers: Hundreds of National Guardsmen hardened on the battlefield in Iraq have landed in New Orleans.

    “They have M-16s and they’re locked and loaded,” she said. “These troops know how to shoot and kill, and they are more than willing to do so, and I expect they will.”” By ALLEN G. BREED, Associated Press Writer

    There is no excuse for looting TV’s, jewlery, etc. I can understand food and water. Nobody needs a TV to survive. If you start shooting looters then maybe rescuers can get in there and help the people that are in really desperate situations. I just have a hard time feeling for people who knew this was coming and did nothing to get out. At the very least they could start walking out of the city. Somebody would have probably picked them up.


  6. smartie pants (unregistered) on September 2nd, 2005 @ 12:11 pm

    J, you are an embarrassment to the rest of us Republicans. Go back to sleep.


  7. Steve (unregistered) on September 2nd, 2005 @ 12:17 pm

    I have never been to New Orleans but have always considered it a place I would like to visit. That has all changed now seeing the primitives and savages that are running around looting, raping and pillaging everything in sight. These people make some of the thugs in third world nations like Somalia look like sophisticated members of society. This will have repercussions for years to come if tourists shy away from New Orleans due to this perception. If the Governor want to save this regions largest industry then they best start shooting looters and thugs on sight. Otherwise New Orleans will not just be a ghost town tomorrow but for years to come.


  8. safe and dry in NJ (unregistered) on September 2nd, 2005 @ 12:49 pm

    Off the AP wire:

    Louisiana’s governor is declaring war on looters and others who’ve turned the streets of New Orleans into scenes of chaos and fear.

    Governor Kathleen Blanco says 300 National Guard troops have arrived in the city fresh from duty in Iraq. She says they “know how to shoot and kill, and they are more than willing to do so, and I expect they will.”

    The Guard troops are carrying M-16’s, which Blanco describes as “locked and loaded.”

    Within the angry crowds of people trying to flee the city, shooters have targeted police officers, a security person at the Superdome and possibly a military helicopter evacuating hospital patients.

    A Louisiana state police commander says many New Orleans officers have quit, saying they weren’t going to risk their lives to fight looters.


  9. YOURMOM (unregistered) on September 2nd, 2005 @ 1:43 pm

    SHOOT THE BAD PEOPLE!


  10. bring back the troops (unregistered) on September 2nd, 2005 @ 2:30 pm

    Why can’t crybaby Governoress of Louisiana instruct the LO National Guard in Irak to come back triple quick and help out in their home State ?


  11. Steve (unregistered) on September 2nd, 2005 @ 3:11 pm

    Joe – “Looters endanger lives by draining personnel resources that could otherwise be used to rescue people”

    Thanks Joe. I wish we had more of this outrage. America has slowly desensitized to this unbelievable behavior. Take the looters and gangs out of the equation, and you make way for:
    – people to carry out their plans to get out and make their way to safety and food/water.
    – businesses to be able to come back and hopefully clean up their stores and salvage what inventory wasn’t damaged by the water.

    There should be zero tolerance to looters and all videos of them should be used as evidence to hunt them down and prosecute them to the extent that they can never do such a thing again and to convey the message that if you loot, you will pay with your freedom for a long time.


  12. your thinking it too (unregistered) on September 2nd, 2005 @ 3:25 pm

    your all idiots if you think that these people are any thing more than animals who can only think far enough into the future to plan picking up there next welfare check. any one of them would drop the food and water in there arms to pick up a pair of air jordans or a handgun. shoot em all.


  13. Ozzie (unregistered) on September 2nd, 2005 @ 4:27 pm

    What do we do with wild animals that attack humans? We kill them. Enough said.


  14. HITLER (unregistered) on September 2nd, 2005 @ 4:55 pm

    What should the residents say to God in their prayers? I suppose that

    the Gulf Coast folks might pray along the following lines:

    “Dear God, We thank thee for sparing our lives, even though we are

    miserable sinners. We thank thee also for taking the lives of so many
    who

    were obviously worse sinners than we are. We thank thee for destroying
    our

    homes and everything we own, to teach us a lesson about thy wondrous
    power.

    We thank the for allowing us to see the suffering and torment of those

    without food or water or air conditioning, as a warning of the torments
    of

    hell which thou hast prepared for us if we don’t do what you tell us to
    do.

    We thank thee for destroying that wicked cesspool of sin and depravity

    called New Orleans, and turning it into a real cesspool. We also thank

    thee for destroying all the church buildings there which were centers
    of

    heresy and blasphemy and false religion. We pray thee to continue to

    destroy and devastate across this wicked nation until all the
    blasphemers,

    fags, abortionists, feminists, evolutionists, atheists, Jews and

    intellectuals are wiped off the face of the land so that Christ can
    come

    soon in glory! Thank you JESUS! AMEN!”


  15. Sanity (unregistered) on September 2nd, 2005 @ 6:00 pm

    Wow. If you think God’s that way, then, buddy, you don’t know God. Yeah, God’s all powerful, but there’s one thing God can’t do, and that’s sin. And what you describe is sin. Yeah, you don’t know God. But you will someday. We all will. See, a secular perspective is starkly different than a spiritual perspective. In the former, one digs down in the mud of life, like an animal, and wallows because it loves the world and only wants the world… even if the world is an evil place (i.e., looting, raping, terrorizing… those aren’t from God). Yes, as long as “I get what’s mine,” who cares about anything else. That’s the impoverished spirit talking. In the latter perspective, one mourns and reaches out and makes sacrifice to others so that others can have peace (even if it’s a little scrap of food or kindness). But that person, in those very spiritual acts, is transcending the world, and God’s love is reflected in that person’s actions. That’s God. I suggest you get to know him. He’s wanted to get to know you all of your life. Just open up. It’ll shake up your world in a way unlike any storm. It’ll give you the spine to not whine, and do the work we’re all called to do, fearlessly and with joy in our hearts. You want to be tough, be tough for God. Your post tells me you’ve got the fight in you, now let him give you the power and the righteousness. I ask you, which side are you on?


  16. Scott L (unregistered) on September 2nd, 2005 @ 6:04 pm

    This whole situation has gotten so far out of control I am wondering what kind of situation would warrant the government declaring Martial Law? If this doesn’t qualify, what the hell would it take? The slick Willies in Washington need to declare it now so that action can be taken against these looters and gang bangers that as of now think they are in charge of the city. Start shooting them dead and see if they don’t become a conformist really quickly. Shoot them dead now and save us all a lot of money in the future. No court costs and no prison costs for those animals.


  17. Vince (unregistered) on September 2nd, 2005 @ 6:19 pm

    I can see shooting armed looters, these types of laws were meant more for riot control, not natural disaster victims, And please show me pictures of Armed Looters in mass mobs, I haven’t seen any evidence of this, just reports of shots fired, and who knows they could be people tying to get someones attention. I think most of the police resigned because they weren’t scared of being shot, they had issue shooting thier own people, heck we were in vietnam where we had the Don’t shot until your shot at policy, so I take it poor American Citizens are of less value. America is no longer a democracy, its a aristocracy, (which means a government ruled by a small minority, which in this case is the ultra rich)All Hail Bush and the Have more. I think there will soon be a Civil War between the Red and the Blue ( Hmm this could explain why everything has been moving out of the USA), and with Bush’s military realignment, he may be just getting ready to do that. So we all better watch what’s going on. Bush Warns of a divided country, yet he’s the one doing the dividing. Agian in Vietnam our soldiers were not to shoot until they were shot at, But those unfortunate people in New Orleans, my deepest sympothy goes out to you, maybe if you had some oil, Bush might enact a food for oil program for you too. Sad to say Greed is priorty in this country at any cost.


  18. Uh-huh (unregistered) on September 2nd, 2005 @ 6:38 pm

    Holy smokes, Vince, buddy, calm down. Take a breath. No one’s out to get you, okay.


  19. UH-HUH (unregistered) on September 2nd, 2005 @ 6:44 pm

    I mean, Vince, trace your thoughts for a moment. You jumped from “armed looters” to “Vietnam” to “democracy/aristocracy” to “minority rule” to “All Hail Bush” to “Civil War” and “Red and Blue” to “military realignment” to “divided country” back to “Vietnam” to “food for oil” to “greed.” It’s a vicious ping-pong ball game going on in that head of yours. Might want to, er, have that checked. It ain’t right, bud. You can get help for that.


  20. Vince (unregistered) on September 2nd, 2005 @ 7:01 pm

    As what should be done, well 5 days ago supplies should have been dropped off, even if you have to parachute them in, just get them there, what’s so hard about that, it could be done in less than 2 hrs, but over 5 days, this is total madness on the presidents part, even police were looting to survive, 2nd, bring in armed gaurds, I think most people will comply when they have a gun to thier head, heck they got bean bag guns they can shoot looters with, they still make handcuffs, oh yeah, All hail Bush, besides once the military gets envolved those who think they rule NOLA will soon parish to the awesome force of the US military. Heck if they dropped off supplies a while back there wouldn’t have been so much looting in the first place, and hell yes if I was there and starved for 5 days and my baby died as a result of someone incompetence, I’d be pissed too, especially when the media’s reporting on it too, someone should be held responsible for this.


  21. Vince (unregistered) on September 2nd, 2005 @ 7:11 pm

    Well I am on a presciption with codine, never knew that cough medicine was so potent, LOL I’ll Stop posting until my mind clears


  22. Dawn (in La)! (unregistered) on September 2nd, 2005 @ 7:33 pm

    first i would like to say this. i wish everyone would stop saying the word- looters. you have no idear how these human beings feel. you can never say what you would are would not do till you walkin in the shoes of the men, woman and children. you try not eating, drinking, no rest, heat beating down on you, fending for your family and to top it off….your kids are hungry, weak, scared, dying,or maybe dead. and you kids are looking at you to do something about it. not knowing if its all over for you and your loved ones.this goes on not one day, not two days but now what? 6 damn days now ! who cares if they take things. we are talking about things that will never be salvaged. food that will only turn bad. clothes that will only mildue. i say to all store owners…let um have it. they may not even live another day. lets talk about what will be the future for our what we call our great america! another thing that is very horrible to me is when, i saw a picture of some black man pulling a basket with things in it through water…someone said look at this looter…….then i saw a picture of two white folkes pulling the same, in the same water……and the comment said look they found some survival food. what the hell is wrong with people? maybe god needs to deal with so many more hearts….my crys go out to all americans whos lives are forever changed with pain and sorrow. i pray for the souls that have died. and the souls that are still trapped. i pray for the people that will have to live with thier lost. be blessed and love others, dont down them no matter what you may think of them. you never know when you might be in these shoes. pray !


  23. A mother (unregistered) on September 2nd, 2005 @ 9:01 pm

    Can’t we all (bloggers) just get along?

    Well, actually this is a saner place than at the AOL blogs…


  24. DL (unregistered) on September 2nd, 2005 @ 9:30 pm

    My husband just came back from an American Red Cross meeting that was preparing volunteers for 3-week deployments. Get this, they are poised and ready to go into Louisiana, but they can’t go in because of the level of violence. They said they can’t put their volunteers at risk until everything is in place to protect them as they do their jobs to help people. So, like everyone said here in their posts, the rotten folks are making life so much harder for the folks who just want to get to safety and reunite with family and begin to start over. My husband put in his application to begin work right away. Hopefully, the violence will subside. There are so many folks who want to help.


  25. natalie (unregistered) on September 3rd, 2005 @ 8:34 pm

    What dark monster has crawled into your ugly soul?

    Criminals should be punished. Someone trying to live one more day is surviving.


  26. charles (unregistered) on September 3rd, 2005 @ 11:22 pm

    Like most people on this blog I don’t accept excuses for the people who are looting unnecessary things such as tv’s. However, I believe that if the government would’ve dropped critical supplies such as food and water in a more timely manner the amount of looting would have been greatly reduced. The bottom line is the poor response to this disaster greatly contributed to the break down in law and order we are have witnessed.

    For the record I served in the Air Force so I can confidently state our response has been completely unacceptable. Anyone who defends how long the response has taken is partisian to the point of being a moron. Furthermore, if you are watching this response and you aren’t angry then you aren’t watching.


  27. George (unregistered) on September 3rd, 2005 @ 11:27 pm

    Actually, they’re “evildoers.” That fits Resident Bush’s rhetoric a bit more snuggly . . . evildoersevildoersevildoers


  28. Sharon (unregistered) on September 4th, 2005 @ 1:28 am

    The thing is that egalitarian socialists have never wanted to possess anything, let alone kill to protect their dead, lifeless possessions. The only distinction to be made here is self-defense. The only reasonable justification to kill is self-defense. People who value their possessions have created an underclass exactly like themselves. I have not read all the entries; but the ones I have read fail to understand that these looters are the mirror image of the privileged elite. People kill for designer tennis shoes because the elite have placed a value on them and excluded the poor from being able to purchase them. These looters are highly indoctrinated capitalists. They value things, not people. If you kill them, then you should kill all the capitalists who create the desire and then hoard the goods. In my humble opinion, as long as there is underclass, I am of them. As long as there are hungry, uneducated people, I cannot rest. For whom does the bell toll? It tolls for thee. No man is an island. You reap what you sow. Thou shalt not kill. The rich have created this hell. They are rich because they willingly exploit millions to accumulate wealth. You cannot be wealthy without mindlessly sucking the lifeblood out of the poor people who must work for you or starve. In the old days, the exploited were given a day off. They were allowed to rule the streets for a day. They mocked their oppressors. They dressed up as capitalists and pretended they owned the world.
    I wanted to live in New Orleans once. New Orleans defeated me in a day. I stayed up all night in a roach-infested hotel room and watched my car being investigated by dozens of bums on the street below. New Orleans is second in corruption to NYC. For the rich to live in New Orleans required massive security. I don’t know the logistics. I just know the levees were always an illusion. I attended graduate schools in Baton Rouge and Lafayette. As long as I knew absolutely nothing, I was rewarded. What else can I say? People are so incredibly stupid that there is no hope. The new city will look like Disney World. All the cockroaches and rats will be swimming in the Gulf’s dead zone.


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  30. Hoggtalk (unregistered) on September 4th, 2005 @ 3:17 pm

    Looting my ass! How about susvival? The only people who call it looting are a bunch of racists pig haunky muthafuckas! Look at tv and tell me what you would do if you were in those shoes. You cant get to your clothes, your bread box is flooded with water. your refridgerator is floating down the street. Get a life muthafuckas and get off the (black)people of New Orleans’ dicks.


  31. hoggtalk (unregistered) on September 4th, 2005 @ 3:23 pm

    Another thing… They are not looting , or whatever you wanna call it, because they want name brand shit… they tookthat shit because they need that shit. Ya’ll so fuckin shallow and narrow minded. Remember… they don’t fuckin have anything anymore. they’re starting from scratch with out a good gotdayum change of clothes or a decent pair of shoes that dont fuck’n stink from ocean water now.Get a life and quit worring about New orleanites. If it happened in your hood, you’d do the same thing.


  32. Linda in CT (unregistered) on September 4th, 2005 @ 4:01 pm

    WOW…

    I must say, I am a person who has an education and have 2 college degrees and am currently living in a project type atmosphere in Connecticut. Not because I want to but because my health is failing and need help for a little bit. This is the only place I can afford to live. I want to tell you all. Not all poor people are lazy, druggies or black. Not all poor people are gangsters either. But the few who thought they could be the newest gang of tyrants to make history, probably just a handful in New Orleans made the entire world believe it was like the entire community was involved. To me that is pure ignorance. If the military came when they heard that shots were fired on rescue people by snipers they should have gone in with the military copter and took them out. Those hoodlums would be taken care of instantly. Its because the military was not there for the people that the FEW thought they could reign. Those FEW are the ones who created the crime issue. Not an entire city of more than 650,000 people. These FEW people are the gangsters, looters, crime mongers, killers….just a few. And it shows how ignorant people really are to beieve otherwise.


  33. Andi (unregistered) on September 4th, 2005 @ 5:34 pm

    The wrath of instantaneous governmental intervention for this catastrophic event will ripple throughout come election time, especially, the local elections. The people of Louisiana really need to look at the past and the present administrations and see the deplorable way the past has lead to the present conundrum and quagmire.

    There needs to be accountability at all levels of government for the mishandling of affective management of prompt services. The voice of the people needs to be heard, not the voice of the politician, as they should be stifled from speech, as I see it they have squandered their time, and our tax dollars, which were to be used to build for just such a situation, and this never came about.

    Gross mismanagement from the oval office down to the level of the police commissioner


  34. calm_rational (unregistered) on September 4th, 2005 @ 5:56 pm

    To the people of nola and the rest of the USA.

    Get a job. Pay taxes. Obey the law.

    Or

    Just shut up and die.


  35. charles (unregistered) on September 4th, 2005 @ 7:23 pm

    calm_rational you are an idiot and obviously a person of low intelligence. If all you have to contribute to this discussion is “To the people of nola and the rest of the USA.

    Get a job. Pay taxes. Obey the law.” then you are as pathetic as the criminals running wild in NO.

    Perhaps you should shut up and die…..


  36. squirrelnutzipper (unregistered) on September 4th, 2005 @ 8:36 pm

    Yes I like that.

    (As long as you don’t come flipping on a video of some unarmed dude being shot with a biggie pack of diapers of course -I appreciate that it could go that way but I’m willing to give common sense a chance at least) And you can send me the diaperman’s grieving incensed family member too. I’m not giong to evaporate in an unexpected cloud of guilt, -as bad as I would would of course feel.
    Here’s the ting. =||==||= _issed over the dilly-dallying to make help start happening? Me too. But you do that and you GOT to accept that you give the OKay to apply some level of ad hoc “martial law” of one kind or another. And you don’t necessarily get to say how much either. The President DOES. |=| That’s what a President’s for. Like a sherriff. Sometimes he gets to embody the law above the law when there’s this kind of thing for which the law is suddenly inadequate. Why do you think people feel he can be held responsible? Technically all he did was start by taking the confines of the law upon HIM seriously. His first day impulse was to not overstep the legal contraints upon HIS powers as president in the situaation. I don’t like Bush, but I wouldn’t have hesitated to back him up on that one. I don’t know how many other people who felt dissapointed with him days ago can honestly say THAT.


  37. squirrelnutzipper (unregistered) on September 4th, 2005 @ 8:50 pm

    You want to shoot a few looters
    or let a few old people and babies die in need ?

    I’m whith JOE B on this one.
    GROW A SPINE and MAKE A CHOICE.

    Then of course you give the chief you sincere prayers and hope with any luck and grace there will manage to be a little less death in BOTH groups if possible. But you got to back up your leader ONE way or ANOTHER, you don’t just ask your top person to burn the candle at both ends and whine about the results.


  38. squirrelnutzipper (unregistered) on September 4th, 2005 @ 9:42 pm

    also there’s antother very simple thing that you have to consider. While y’all whining about the sophisticated complexity of this whole TO-be—or-NOT-to-loot (as Shakespere would put it)
    You got some water or diapers or nice calvinKline underwear(you didn’t get to do laundry this morning) in your hands AND suddenly you hear a gunshot?
    DROP THAT S**T right away !!!

    It’s fairly simple, though few are willing to admit
    COMMON SENSE my fellow Americans, I don’t care HOW much looting your inclined to do in your off/Katrina hours of fun. Loot all you wan’t. But if you find yourself in some kind of once-in-a-lifetime Katrina kind of event. Think twice if you hear a gunshot. ESPECIALLY if you ain’t been see’in no police around for awhile. You like police. You know dere’s certain rules. Like maranda and all that. OTHERWISE -been nice knowin’ ya you silly dumb*ss kid, I got’s me some needy/sick people to to go tend to. And I’m droppin’ what I’m carryin’ to them if’n I heeres me a gunshot, simple as that.

    chances are you might die anyway if your not willing to apply a little common sense in your new endofthe/mississippi-side environment anyway

    lots of irrevocable things are giong to happen in those first few days/ that’s just how crisis goes/ crisis means decision-time / for all kinds of folk\ presidents, looters, untrained tenders of the infirm, guardsmen finally allowed in by their superiors to help, floating boats and attic-bound kitty-cats too.
    Even the Coast Guard heroes on day one////\//had to make all kind of unpleasant decisions about how to find people and who to leave awhile\ and you can bet your but they didnt let it slow them down. You pause, take a breath, and DECIDE and GO TO IT.
    When it’s all simmered down, then you take a nice break from making any big decisions for a while. (Because THEN you’re more liable to screw things up untill you’ve had weeks to simmer down off the intensity of it.)


  39. Andi (unregistered) on September 5th, 2005 @ 12:54 am

    I just do not get you people consumed with the fact of siding with these thieves and flagrant murderers who have been running around New Orleans way before this storm every hit. Now, they just have the freedom of geography and the lack of policing to go ahead and commit demonic damage openly without being stopped by an occasional willing individual with the wherewithall to stand forth and try and stop them. Thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not covet thy neighbors goods, and thou shalt not kill, not to mention you should obey the common laws laid by the land or community, which are the laws of the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the laws set forth by state, and city ordinances, which is all laid out in the biggest book of morals all should at least try to abide by the Bible, Tora, Q’uran, etc.

    These people were told to leave, if they couldn’t leave to get to shelter. The shelter was there. The walked out in 4 foot of water, what was wrong with walking out while there was no water, pure laziness.

    I do feel a lot of this is to blame with the lackluster governing and blame the local, and state government for not moving people out faster, and more effectively, and for man’s sake, they had the buses, which they so carelessly left to drown in the bus barns, instead of moving them out way before time. All of these mindless politicians are old enough to know Betsy, and Camille, and should have known the damage would be 10 to 100 times worse than either of those storms.

    Regarding the statement of the above-mentioned statement about the “People who value their possessions have created an underclass exactly like themselves.” Dammit, education is free, the yellow bus sytem is free, and getting a job is free, work for your so called material possessions and build some character as to what is your possessive nature, and what is your need in life, and utilize some cognitive thought as to who gives a flip what Boo Boo has on his feet, or Joe is driving. Bling for sure didn’t come from the have’s, it’s a most assured urban slang, and propietory demonstrative. Perhaps all those rappers and hip hop videos, as well as the sports stars showing their bling bling has implemented this want not the suburbia have’s who have garnished an education out of succession, and desire, and not because they were moved through education because they could play ball, or rap about killing, treating women badly, and smoking dope!

    Andi


  40. Sad (unregistered) on September 5th, 2005 @ 6:24 pm

    These are some of the saddest post I have ever read. Do you know what the real problems are with NO and evidently our nation is the total lack of morals and compassion.

    We stand and critize people for not leaving NO. How many of you offered a senior citizen, or a young single parent, or someone with a disability a ride? Where was your compassion? I say shame on you? Get the stick out of your own eye.

    As far as the looting. Yes there are some that will take advantage of a situation like this for their own personal gain. But that is just a small percentage of what is happening in NO. The majority is for survival. Violence begets violence.

    Yes there were mostly black people looting, however, that would be because the percentage of poor and sick in this country are black. But I also seen white and hispanics looting.

    The whole situation in NO should be looked at in our nation as a whole on how we treat the poor, sick and elderly.

    Yes NO is our energy port. However, that does not make it any better that the rest. NO is part of a body. The body works best as a whole, however never think that the body can not function without a leg or two. However, NO cannot function without the rest of its body. I don’t think the leg does much good by itself. It will just dry up and die.

    Within our country there are other cities, counties, and states that are just as important. We need all our body parts to function to our best abilitie.

    It is time to stop the BS and work together for the greater good of our nation.


  41. Moosetracks (unregistered) on September 5th, 2005 @ 7:43 pm

    The people of New Orleans should have used some of the cars I see parked in front of their homes, to get out….No gas, please, I see them with cell phones and cigarettes.

    The mayor should have used all those school buses to evacuate, and put food in the shelters before hand….what was he thinking?

    Education is the way out of poverty, everyone should be made to stay in school, at least get a high school education.

    Rappers are not the answer for these young people, mimicking them is stupid. And joining a gang will only lead to being downtrodden.

    Having one child out of wedlock is a mistake, having more is stupid.

    And I would like to know, if anyone can tell me, how many illegal aliens do you have there, and are they gangs?

    If they are, the government of New Orleans should have kicked them back to their countries long ago..as well as every State that has them.


  42. Heloise (unregistered) on September 6th, 2005 @ 1:21 pm

    Stop what you are doing and listen to Rush Limbaugh on WPAP online or the archives later. He is reading out the whole evacuation city plan that SHOULD have been followed and was not.

    It includes using BUSES and all city resources to get those out who cannot do it on their own FIRST.

    He has the facts please listen and then decide for yourselves who is to blame. It ain’t the white folks let me tell you.

    Heloise


  43. curious onlooker (unregistered) on September 7th, 2005 @ 11:09 pm

    Too bad this blog ended on the hateful notes of Juan’s sad and stupid song.

    There are so many levels of sociopathy at work in this situation that it’ll take a governmental commissions worth of monkies, typing for the next thousand years, to put a positive spin on this whole situation …


  44. charles (unregistered) on September 7th, 2005 @ 11:27 pm

    God help us all. This blog has proven my opinion that the 10% rule is true.

    The 10% rule says 90% of the people around us are idiots. Reading many of the posts lately proves it.


  45. hoggtalk (unregistered) on September 8th, 2005 @ 8:23 pm

    Juan is a dumb, mixed up, cock sucking, birthed by a bitch, probably got his ass kicked by blacks all his life, and still gets his ass kicked by blacks, shit sucking, booger eating, suck ass, double drag, getting fucked in the ass by other extremey racist dillweeds, pussy ass, hiding behind a computer spitting racial slurs, coward ass, gone get his teeth all knocked straight the fuck out if I ever see his ass, Dope Fiend Junkie! Juan, tell your momma I said to leave me a voice mail if I miss her call. Me and my boys wanna run another train on her, and that good ole’ head she got on her shoulders.


  46. Charles (unregistered) on September 16th, 2005 @ 11:15 pm

    I have little sympathy for those that have made a bad situation worse through looting non essential items for their survival when aide took so long in coming. I fully support those that are trying to provide legitimate assitance in the severely damaged area of NO. I’m sure there is much fault to be be found when considered from many varying points of view. Nevertheless, I am concerned about those with mentalities not much different than the looters, that would use the excuse of looting to use others for target practice. Every state should have an understood response to disaster that would be the same for every citizen, whether rich,poor, black or white. The tradegy in NO in many ways brings out what is best and worst in humanity. Those quick to suggest shooting at others might consider looking in the mirror first to consider what part of humanity they best represent. I seen more evidence of comparsion for a charging vicious dog a police officer refused to shoot at, who was finally tasored by a fellow officer. The tragegy in such a propososal to shoot on site, is that in most cases the accused will end up dead with no one knowing the true circumstance as to why they were shot.



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