A strange, haunting thought

I know this is going to be an unpopular statement but I haven�t heard anyone say it and it�s been on my mind for days now: Wouldn�t it be less devastating and less significant if Rita followed the same path as Katrina? So many have already lost everything and everyone is already (more/less) evacuated from those areas. I�m not taking anything away from the Texas Gulf Coast and their ability to survive Hurricane Rita, but just from a practical standpoint of limiting the area of destruction and allowing for a more narrow focus of recovery efforts. Certainly, I would like to see the storm pitter out in the middle of the Gulf, but that�s na�ve so if it has to hit anywhere then I would hope it to hit where Katrina hit � keep in mind that by saying this I�m hoping for the storm to hit my own home.

Maybe I�m not thinking it through or overlooking something so convince me I�m wrong for thinking this.

26 Comments so far

  1. Hannah Herrick (unregistered) on September 21st, 2005 @ 11:52 am

    I agree. If there was ever going to be a time in which a category 4/5 was to hit New Orleans again, it would be now. At the very least the resources, troops and services are in place to handle whatever same change Rita could make to our landscape. You are not going to make any friends with this thought process, but true nonetheless.


  2. George (unregistered) on September 21st, 2005 @ 12:01 pm

    Your rationale is a little obtuse. Now would be the worst time for another cat 4/5 to hit NOLA. Although the city is largely evacuated, and the military is in place there, the geographical infrastructure of the city (levee systems, pumping stations, etc.) is extremely weak and can barely withstand a few inches of rain much less a storm stronger than Katrina. I say stronger because, as we all know, the East side of a storm is the stronger side. The river levees would undoubtedly give way and all the historical parts of the city, which are the city’s last hope for recovery (tourism) would be severely damaged. Anyway, talk of where the storm should and shouldnt go is meaningless as none of us have dominion over the weather. But let us simply pray for the best possible scenario to play out.


  3. Sanity (unregistered) on September 21st, 2005 @ 12:12 pm

    You people are not so bright. I am also from NO. I understand your point but it is way, way off. Risk triggering another levee/floodwall breach? Start the whole nighmare over again? Have you lost it?

    You need to take a look at a map of texas. On the coastline between Houston and Corpus Christi, there are over 200 miles of nothing. Some ranches, mostly land and some cows.

    This is what you should be hoping for. The storm to hit BFE, Texas. Your shallow instincts of martyrdom are not just self destructive, they favor COMPLETE destruction of human populated areas over that of unpopulated areas.

    Maybe you should run for Mayor of NO…or Governor of LA? You certainly have demonstrated the incompetence of thought that qualifies you for the position.


  4. Joe B. (unregistered) on September 21st, 2005 @ 12:14 pm

    I’ve heard this already from two different people this morning. In some ways, it would be better. For everyone in and from New Orleans, it would be worse. All of the debris from Katrina would do a real number on what’s left of the city. Especially out in the Kenner area. They’re piling up hundreds of tons of debris there, remember?

    You could just flood the city at the 17th street canal break (strategic flooding) and hope the river levees held. They you wouldn’t have to worry about further damage to the lake levees. It’s not like you’d be ruining anything not already ruined.

    The river levees, though. That’d be a bitch. And if you lost the toehold in Jefferson Parish on the Westbank and parts of the Eastbank that didn’t take too much flooding, you really complicate the rebuilding effort. At least now, there’s a pretty substantial staging area.


  5. Joe B. (unregistered) on September 21st, 2005 @ 12:17 pm

    Jack Ware: Governor ’08

    Can’t be too much worse.


  6. AustinResident (unregistered) on September 21st, 2005 @ 12:48 pm

    First of all, not much of coastal Texas is BFE anymore, secondly, that storm is aimed at one of the most heavily populated areas in Texas, which, for the geographically challenged among you, is Houston, and third, why would ANYBODY wish a cat 4 or 5 storm on anybody else?

    I will say this though, the residents of Texas have a much better chance of coming through this disaster in one piece than the people of NOLA did, mainly because Houston and Galveston don’t have morons for mayors, and Texas doesn’t have a jesus freak for Governor, who just wrings his hands and tells everybody to pray! They have started the evacuation and FEMA processes three days sooner than Nagin did, and those mayors are not mugging for the camera and screaming for the Feds, instead of evacuating their constituents like Mr. Nagin should have done in the first place. They are doing what local authorities do in times of crisis…their jobs. Don’tcha wish Sugar Ray had done the same? Maybe ya’ll should all move to Texas!

    But wait….after this all the race baiters will be shouting that Texans were saved, not because we have a better, more practiced system of first responders, but because all of us are white and wealthy! Doesn’t matter that we are taking care of approximately 275,000 of YOUR residents AND our own now, we’ll be saved because this is GW’s home state. You heard it here first!

    “God Blessed Texas with His Own Hand”


  7. jack Ware (unregistered) on September 21st, 2005 @ 1:52 pm

    Well, I think the most compelling argument against my thinking is the loss of the river levees which would destroy the remaining parts of the city and the loss of the West Bank and Jefferson Parish as a toehold for recovery efforts.

    I hadn’t given much thought to the debris doing damage to the city since I looked at that as just moving the piles around.

    I guess the real variable here is: how weak is the remainder of the levee system. There doesn’t seem to be a clear assessment of that. The only thing that’s clear is that the situation isn’t good. This makes me wonder: if the mayor thinks it would only take only a few inches of additional water to overflow the levee (which is what I think I heard this morning) then how could he even begin to condone people going back into the city?

    And on a personal note: This is great; last night I was called a racist in a comment and now I’m being touted for Governor – I really don’t know which upsets me more.


  8. dkvale (unregistered) on September 21st, 2005 @ 3:44 pm

    I think they are doing a good job now. We need, however, to keep donating to charities such as Habitats… and such to keep money coming in to help rebuild NOLA. We keep relying on the government and we should keep giving and helping where we can. We are the people of the United States. Let’s prove it.


  9. kohlehydrat (unregistered) on September 21st, 2005 @ 5:06 pm

    well i’m happy to see the katrina evacuee disaster taught texan offcials *enough* of a lesson – a lesson so recent it only happened practically a few days ago – that they are reacting in a timely and sufficient manner. would officials be just as on edge if that trauma hadn’t just occurred? i wonder.


  10. BickDickDaddy (unregistered) on September 21st, 2005 @ 9:49 pm

    well if you look in history what happiend at nola never happiend before. The state and locals screw up big time and compressed the situtaion. unlike other locals and state who know what to do. Hopefuly in NOLA you guys will get better STATE and LOCAL and REBUILD the police dept. And replace the heads of each of them!


  11. Thomas Ware (unregistered) on September 21st, 2005 @ 10:40 pm

    As with engaging in violence, calling one racist, calling one names, is the last resort of the incompetent.


  12. toussaint (unregistered) on September 21st, 2005 @ 11:34 pm

    Let’s see, for a cat V storm to nail the big dead easy again, it would need to move north, through the areas south of the bde, areas that may or may not have been scrubbed to the blackjack by Katrina, places like say, Terrebonne or Lafourche parishes, or Grand Isle, or St. Mary Parish, which are all at capacity housing bde displaced (with compassion and generosity), busy constructing “temporary” trailer park cities, and providing shelter and workspace to thousands of displaced bde residents as well, places which have virtually no remaining wetlands buffer due to coastal erosion, and would be scrubbed to the slabs by Rita, an appetizer course be it may, before she consumes New Orleans, returning all of us to the fishes; not to mention pulverizing the oil and gas infrastructure in the process, and crippling the industries that could have repaired and replaced it; granted, that’s not the exact “same path as Katrina”, but a mere bump to the west makes this scenario reality;
    What kind of work do you do? Are you in a decision making role there? Are you fucking crazy? Another storm hit here because, well, just because…we’re lucky as Edwin at the craps table that we haven’t had a Gene Kelly umbrella moment the past three weeks, much less a cat V storm…that Austin post, justifiably arrogant, says them lone star boys got their cow pies together there…sounds like he was telling Rita to come on down, they got God and W on their side, and they’ll show us coonasses how to break a hurricane;


  13. Fyre (unregistered) on September 22nd, 2005 @ 12:03 am

    Hey Sanity…
    That 200 miles of nothing, is actually 200 miles of SOMETHING. The entire coastline is populated between Houston and Corpus Christ. Town called Matagorda.. Town called Freeport.

    Don’t forget that the hurricane is so large, and so strong, that it will be effecting the Houston area in a major way, regardless of where it hits. If it hits directly on us, or east of us (in the so-called “200 miles of nothing”), we’ll get up to (and probably over) 20′ of storm surge, pretty much flooding everything in SouthEast Houston. All of the refineries, all of the homes, ALL of Galveston Island, etc… It’ll be damned horrific for the people of the Houston area.

    I’m on the west side of Houston, around the Ft. Bend/Harris County line (Find a map of Houston and find State Highway 6, then find the point midway between I-10 and Highway 59. That’s me, pretty much). We’re thinking of getting out, and praying we don’t lose our home.

    Whether it hits in your “nothing-land,” or not, it’ll be devastating for the Houston area. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, stand to lose a lot – if not everything. Keep in mind, too, that the “nothing-land” is actually filled with homes, ranches, farms, towns, smaller cities, etc… There’s a whole lot of something between Houston and Corpus, and that something is people.

    Now, I’m not saying Rita should hit New Orleans… I would give my life if it would die in the gulf, and spare everyone… unfortunately, that won’t happen. It makes a hell of a lot more sense for it to come towards an already devastated area, where the vaaaaaaaaaast majority of people are already gone, than to come towards this area.

    I really wish I didn’t have to say that. I don’t wish anything on anyone, and I especially don’t wish more crap on New Orleans and the middle Gulf coast… I just wish it wouldn’t come here.
    -Fyre, from Houston.


  14. Fyre (unregistered) on September 22nd, 2005 @ 12:06 am

    Uh, Austinresident…
    You haven’t visited Houston, much, have you? I’m pretty sure that minorities (particularly blacks and hispanics) populate Houston more-so than whites. If not, it’s damned close.

    We’ll be saved because this is George W’s home state?
    Pardon my language, please, but what the fuck does that have to do with anything!?

    *sigh* I’m sorry. Nevermind. I forgot and ignored the “please don’t feed the trolls” sign at the entrance.


  15. CAvH (unregistered) on September 22nd, 2005 @ 8:49 am

    Nobody in their right minds wants this beast to hit ANY place, but let’s get a grip on realities here:

    Greater NO-area: Infrastructure gone, everybody evacuated already, majority of houses either destroyed or damaged beyond return.

    Greater Houston: Everything intact, home to 25% of oil refineries in the US. Major center of sheltering for Katrina evacuees.

    Surely, this is not a choice between Houson or NO, but anyone in his right mind must realize that two diasaster areas is double the trouble of ONE!!! Furthermore, it is questionable how much more flood damage can be done to much of NO that hasn’t already been let loose by Katrina. Irrespectively of whether or not Rita hits NO, the city will have to be rebuilt the same way.

    When this is said, let’s pray it just dies out and withers intoa storm before i hits ANY coast.

    CAvH


  16. AustinResident (unregistered) on September 22nd, 2005 @ 12:04 pm

    Duhhhhh….FYRE, you must be unfamiliar with the term “sarcasm.”


  17. Jasmine (unregistered) on September 22nd, 2005 @ 12:43 pm

    I agree with you unfortunatly.It would be economically correct to hit what has already been considered an area of disaster than to hit Texas, which was not affected by Katrina and hold a large amount of evacuees from Louisiana, as well as have the largest amount of oil refineries.I hope the hurricane dies out, which is a slim chance.Instead of wishing the worst, we should pray that things aren’t worse case senerio like predicted on CNN and everything along the gulf coast can continued to be built back to suffiency.
    -Jasmine(KS)


  18. denise (unregistered) on September 22nd, 2005 @ 1:03 pm

    I agree, how much more damage could it do to N.O. This would be the perfect storm


  19. CAvH (unregistered) on September 22nd, 2005 @ 4:41 pm

    CNN’s doom&gloom soap operas are getting more and more pathetic as time goes on. I agree that it is better to fear the worst and the be happy if so does not come true, but I sometimes get the impression that these disasters are vitamine-injections to the mainstream-media.

    And yes, Honore was right on, many of these guys are STUCK ON STUPID.

    CAvH


  20. john (unregistered) on September 27th, 2005 @ 6:30 pm

    heres the problem,too many Americans get ther information from the TV.Not one talking head on any network provided any real news that couldnt be found on NOAA.Geeze it would be a bigger disaster for some of you CNN clones if the networks suddenly disapeared.Wouldnt be any giant loss.So much for the so-called journalists LOL.Ya might as well listen to the late communist. Peter Jennings


  21. DAN FESTLER MN (unregistered) on September 29th, 2005 @ 3:56 am

    It really warms my heart to see our fellow NIGGER citizens coming together in a crisis. They sure know how to help out the situation down there in New Orleans. I am glad to see that they are able put aside their diffrences and work together to help(i.e. rape, pillage, plunder) out their communities.

    THE ESSENTIAL AMERICAN NIGGER:

    Slink around, shuffling your feet and bobbing your neck like the lazy retard you are.
    – Walk down the middle of the street because you don


  22. Matthew (unregistered) on November 3rd, 2005 @ 8:57 am

    I cannot believe that this piece of racist shit was ever allowed on this site. I further cannot believe it is STILL HERE. Yes, I read it. Yes, I cringed.
    Interesting fact: 53% of those on the welfare rolls in the US are white.
    It sounds like the writer went to sleep oh, about 1956 and is still dreaming.
    Look beneath the surface. But not in the mirror. That might scare even you, although I doubt it. It takes some brains to be frightened.
    It does not, however, take any smarts to hang onto a way of life that is hateful and poisonous. But again, it takes brains to think differently.
    Good luck in the 21st century. You’ll need it.


  23. I support DAN! (unregistered) on November 3rd, 2005 @ 9:48 am

    Matthew, you stupid nigger, DAN is right.


  24. Matthew (unregistered) on November 3rd, 2005 @ 6:27 pm

    Well, you are even a bit stupider than dan. Didn’t think that was possible. Now run along and go play with the other racists in your neighborhood. When u get tired out, just take a little nap, and dream of a “pure” America…that never existed in the first place.
    If u wake up, just go back to sleep. Better for the rest of us that you stay in a coma. ur comments sound like u never woke up.


  25. GoDanGo (unregistered) on November 18th, 2005 @ 4:25 am

    I don’t think the plague that is the American negro has ever been summed up better. Go Dan go. You be da sheet booii! Oh yeah, If there are still any doubts, please check out the video “BabyMama Drama”. Just do a search and you will surely be enlightened.


  26. SO-TRUE (unregistered) on December 15th, 2005 @ 2:39 am

    DAN IS SO RIGHT! I don’t mind black people but I fucking hate NIGGERS!



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