So close!

Damn Damn Damn! http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/27/world/asia/27cnd-cheney.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

21 Comments so far

  1. Mr. B (unregistered) on February 27th, 2007 @ 2:02 pm

    …way to elevate the discourse, Heather.


  2. Owen (unregistered) on February 27th, 2007 @ 3:05 pm

    Yeah, that’s pretty sick…


  3. kg2v (unregistered) on February 27th, 2007 @ 6:02 pm

    yeah – rooting for the VP to be killed – He, I got an idea – why don’t those of us living outside NO root for NO to get hit with a CAT5, and be totally destroyed?


  4. Mark Folse (unregistered) on February 27th, 2007 @ 6:29 pm

    Maybe it was a disgruntled hunting buddy…


  5. roux (unregistered) on March 1st, 2007 @ 9:40 am

    Unhinged.


  6. judyb (unregistered) on March 1st, 2007 @ 11:21 am

    kg2v, you be one sick mutha


  7. RobM (unregistered) on March 1st, 2007 @ 8:27 pm

    Disgusting. Pathetic. Treasonous. And to think that I’ve patronized you libtard rollerdykes. Won’t be making that mistake again. It’s boring as hell, anyway.


  8. heather (unregistered) on March 2nd, 2007 @ 9:40 am

    Wow. Libtard rollerdyke. I suppose making a joke about the VP evading a bomb meant for him certainly does call for childish name-calling. Way to step up to the plate, RobM! I have been put back into my place.


  9. jujubee (unregistered) on March 2nd, 2007 @ 10:24 pm

    What a shame! The world would have been rid of a hate mongering war profiteer. What a loss that would have been.
    Oh and by the way, Dick wouldn’t spit on you if you were dying of thirst. Remember?


  10. RobM (unregistered) on March 3rd, 2007 @ 10:31 pm

    The “but, but… it was a JOKE” defense did not work for Kerry after he called our troops idiots, nor does it work when you clearly wish for harm to come to our standing VP. What you and Kerry don’t seem to realize is that jokes need to be funny in order to be considered jokes.

    23 people were killed in that attack, including one employee of the company that I work for. Her name was Geraldine Marquez and she had just turned 31 years old. I did not know her, but I’m damn proud to know of her. You’re probably connected to some casualties in this conflict as well.

    http://www.vvdailypress.com/news/20070303/suicide-bomber-targets-cheney-kills-victor-valley-native-instead

    Is this funny to you? If you find humor in any of this, then I’m sorry to say that you are not alone. The likes of Hugo Chavez and Bill Maher have similar ideology.

    There are countries hospitable to such delusional America-haters. France, for one. You could move there, but you might want to consider how long you and your pals would be able to skate around without being required by law to wear burqas and be confined to an area where no males are present. By then they might even throw people in jail for posting comments that are critical of their government. This is a freedom that few appreciate. I’ll bet Geraldine Marquez did.

    As for publicly expressing your ill-wishes for an active elected government official, it’s hard to describe all the levels on which this is wrong. Please clarify your “joke” for us.

    I regret calling you names because it was an uncharacteristically trollish thing to do, but I’m not sorry. Your post and dozens more like it made me see red. You might deserve far worse than name calling. I’m curious to see your response.

    Regarding Cheney as a war profiteer… grow a brain. Cheney going into politics for personal financial gain would be like Bill Gates getting into an airline business for the frequent flier benefits.


  11. jujubee (unregistered) on March 3rd, 2007 @ 11:29 pm

    “Cheney going into politics for personal financial gain would be like Bill Gates getting into an airline business for the frequent flier benefits.”

    That is the most delusional comment I have ever witnessed. Anyone who denies war being big business is obviously taking our “elected officials” word a face value. Huge mistake. Ever heard of a little company called Halliburton? Carlyle group? Follow the paper trail sweetheart.

    Chief of staff, Congressman, Sec. of Defense….. Yeah, being in politics for the last 40 years really did a number on his pocket book. You may have been genetically programed to “grow a brain” but have failed miserably expanding it.


  12. heather (unregistered) on March 4th, 2007 @ 9:40 am

    RobM, I never realized that libtard rollerdykes in France are required by law to wear burqas. I also never realized that expressing a political opinion means that I hate America. I had always thought that I really loved this place. I plan on taking your advice and growing a brain. Can you recommend any good news sources to me? I seem to have had the wool pulled over my eyes for quite a while now.


  13. Ann (unregistered) on March 4th, 2007 @ 12:23 pm

    “There are countries hospitable to such delusional America-haters. France, for one. You could move there, but you might want to consider how long you and your pals would be able to skate around without being required by law to wear burqas and be confined to an area where no males are present.”

    You obviously are ignorant of the history not only of the United States, but that of France as well. France was our first ally. Without them, we’d all be speaking German. They saved our asses in the Revolution. They modeled thier republic after us as soon as they stabilized after their revolution. They gave us the Statue of Liberty.

    Right now, France is in tourmoil over the mass influx of refusgees from former colonies such as Morrocco and Lebanon. A political firestorm and days of riots were touched off because they discussed BANNING the hijab in publicly funded schools. France, and the United States, are secular, not religious, republics. The stance of the French government has always been that any religious symbolism that interferes with the public good is to be confined to private spaces.

    We also are stigmatizing Muslim girls and women here on the local level – school boards across the country are citing dress code violations as justifications for banning the hijab. Are orthodox Jews prohibited from wearing yamukles? No. Are Catholics prohibited from wearing a crucifix? No. Are evangelical Protestants prohibited from wearing WWJD t-shirts to school? No. Land of freedom of religion indeed.

    “By then they might even throw people in jail for posting comments that are critical of their government.”

    No, dear boy, not in France. Try a little closer to home.


  14. RobM (unregistered) on March 4th, 2007 @ 9:39 pm

    Your indignant and repetitious non-response is disappointing, Heather. Being pro-choice is a political opinion. Advocating the assassination of the VP is not… it is borderline treason. If you want to use my own attacks against me, save yourself some effort next time and just post “I know you are, but what am I”. Then feel free to continue sitting there wishing for a socialist coup and laughing at the deaths of those sacrificing their lives for your freedoms. You will be protected anyway, for at least a while.

    I am aware of France’s history, and of what they did for us in the Revolution. We repaid our debt to them and more in WWII. Our previous ties became irrelevant as soon as they decided to actively support our enemies in the present conflict. And what “the stance of the French government has always been…” is also irrelevant because the riots you mentioned are only the beginning of what is coming.

    France is a ticking time bomb. The immigrants you mentioned are unassimilated, furious, and want to live under Sharia law in their new homes. At the rate they are breeding, the chances are very good that you and I will live to see an overthrow of the way the French stance has always been. Well, maybe not see it, but at least hear about it.

    Hence the burqa comment I made before. I never said you have to wear burqas there today. Go back and re-read it if you don’t believe me.

    If it is reading material that you want on this topic, read Mark Steyn and Victor Davis Hanson’s observations on the demographic trends in the EU. Major news outlets are the worst place you can go to read about something so politically incorrect.

    You must think Cheney is a cross between Ken Lay and OJ. Yeah, he’s wealthy and has ties to Big Oil. So what! Good for him! With the WaPo and NYT watching his every breath, do you really think he could get away with anything remotely illegal? All you have are conspiracy theories and sour grapes, which is a great recipe for me to be wasting my breath by saying any more.


  15. Ann (unregistered) on March 5th, 2007 @ 6:43 am

    Your arguments are so disjointed – somehow, Heather disliking the VP, which hardly makes her unusual or radical, BTW, makes France our enemy and we will all end up wearing burjas and having free speech taken away. And Bill Mahr and Hugo Chavez share the same ideology! Look out below – the train of logic has derailed.

    How does France “support our enemies in the present conflict.” By disagreeing with the U.S. government? By pursuing foreign policiy iniatives that are in France’s best interests, rather than ours? Sounds like they’re acting like a sovereign nation, not an “enemy.” Just because they are not with us does not mean that they are against us. To believe, and engage, in such sophistry is a cop-out.

    The conflict in Afghanastin has zilch to do with most people’s disdain of the VP. Furthermore, the conflict in Iraq has nothing to with safeguarding our freedom. If you don’t readily see why tens of millions of Americans feel as Heather does, you are willfully ignorant. But I have a question for you- was it treasonous for Rush Limbaugh to advocate the death of Bill Clinton – he said “I wish someone would take him out” repeatedly. What about the undermining of our president and troops in Bosnia and Somalia during Clinton’s terms – sedition? Treason? I don’t remember anyone on the left hand side of the aisle bandying about those super-charged rhetorical terms when refering to the political opposition.

    The notion that opposition to the party in power was sedittious and treasonous was settled by the Velvet Revolution of 1800. According to James Madison, generally regarded as the father of our Constitution, a “loyal opposition” is essential to a properly functioning democratic republic. Without it, you have an oligarchy.

    BTW – by definition, assasination, or the advocation thereof, is a political action. (see Merriam Webster’s deffinition).

    “You must think Cheney is a cross between Ken Lay and OJ. . . .you really think he could get away with anything remotely illegal?”

    Well – DUH!


  16. heather (unregistered) on March 5th, 2007 @ 3:44 pm

    I have never prayed for a socialist coup nor laughed at the death of those sacrificing their lives in the name of America. I am not sure why you would assume such things. I am a voting American who dearly loves democracy – in fact, I think we could use more of it in this country. It may not seem a satisfactory answer to you, but I made a distatesteful joke that made a point about how I feel about Cheney’s politics – I think he is about as honest as most politicians in D.C. Which is to say, not very much. Politicians are supposed to serve the public, not lie to them so that they may become more powerful than anyone deserves to be.


  17. A friend of Markie's (unregistered) on March 5th, 2007 @ 5:21 pm

    I am commenting in Geraldine Marquez aka “Markie” I was stationed with her at Travis AFB we worked in the same section together and it is really sad to hear about this tragic news Markie was the nicest person and most loving person I have ever met and this whole war thing needs to stop soon I can go on and on about how much I do not agree I served 4 years and was able to get out before it turned out like this. RIP Markie we love you and miss you!!! I will keep your family in prayer!! Miss DLC


  18. Prayers for Markie (unregistered) on March 5th, 2007 @ 5:50 pm

    I remember Marky as a fun loving girl and a fine troop who never complained. She believed in working hard to get the job accomplished in a timely and efficient manner. She did this most of the time with a smile on her face, trying to keep an upbeat mood even when when things were anything but upbeat (and those times were many, believe me). I like to think she had the same approach to working in the military as I did. All your friends from your military days at “T.M.O.” and “The Port” remember you and carry a heavy heart “SSgt” Marquez. Rest in Peace Markie, you were and angel on earth, and now you’re and angel in heaven. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. God Bless you all and God Bless America.

    Terrorists rot in the hell where you are headed.

    “Paul Baka–” Retired USAF


  19. RedisFun (unregistered) on March 9th, 2007 @ 11:15 am

    I did not see where this line of remarks began, but it seems to have been with someone rooting for our VP to have actually been hit that day on 02-27/07, but instead 23 people lost their lives. Geraldine, also known as Markie to her military friends, was my little sister. I had the honor of watching her grow from a little girl to a lovely woman along with her 5 sisters and 1 brother.

    I remember when she told me she was going to enlist, and she had thought everything out. She was there because she believed in what we are doing there, and if she believed in it, then so do I.

    If you do not like the politics of our government, then vote!!! That is how we have our current administration, they where voted in. .

    She died so we can continue to have the freedoms of speaking out in open our opinions as well as all of the other freedoms many of use have taken for granted.


  20. Cheryl (unregistered) on March 11th, 2007 @ 3:39 am

    You know, my initial reaction was “Oh darn, they missed!” I’m no fan of Cheney.

    Then I found out about Geraldine Marquez, and I changed my mind.

    I think she was the same Geraldine Marquez that was my neighbor for 3 years… 25 years ago in Glendora. Quite possibly the same Geraldine who my brother and I played with as a child.

    I’m ashamed to have forgotten that people like Cheney are usually surrounded by good people, like the 23 that died, who are just doing the jobs they loved.


  21. Chaplain of Markie (unregistered) on March 19th, 2007 @ 3:12 pm

    I was Markie’s Chaplain in Afghanistan. She sat at my studies on a Purpose Driven Life and it is all true what is said about her. She was the nicest person I have ever met. I am glad that she had a religious faith. She was the last person I saw from the group when I left Afghanistan. She definitely was one of the most beautiful of all the flowers in God’s garden.
    I just learned of her death today. I will remember you forever. See you in the sweet by and by.



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